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"Pontiac built its last car nearly a year ago, but the official end was set for Oct. 31, when G.M.’s agreements with Pontiac dealers expire." Pontiac Falls From Muscle Car Glory to Graveyard - NY Times October 29,2010
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I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold  1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
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Watch, in 5 years time GM will start another division called "Pontiac Classic".
It worked with coke!
Engine Test Stand Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoxyUwptUcdqEb-o2ArqyiUaHW0G_C88restoring my 1968 Firebird 400 HO convertible (Firedawg) 1965 Pontiac Catalina Safari Wagon 389 TriPower (Catwagon) 1999 JD AWS LX Lawn tractor 17hp (my daily driver) 2006 Sequoia 2017 Murano (wife's car) 202? Electric car 203? 68 Firebird /w electric engine 2007 Bayliner 175 runabout /w 3.0L Mercuiser__________________________________________________________
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I hope you are correct Gus68 and I hope the product and market planning is done by classic Pontiac enthusiasts.
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People thought the same about Olds and many other name plates/brands etc. I'd be willing to venture to say the Corvette is also doomed. 09 was the worst year EVER for Corvette sales and they are saying 2010 may be half the units as last year. Not sure how much longer that name plate will hold on with sales performance like that. Maybe they will become a special order division type thing or limited production runs in the near future...
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A very sad day indeed, but the new Pontiacs are nothing like the old ones. The best Pontiac was looking to be the new G8, which did not hardy get off the ground before the Government got involved  . It seemed as of late the best ventures that the Pontiac motor division came up with were one that in conjunction with other companies. Pontiac Vibe,GTO, & G8 for examples.
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If we keep restoring existing Pontiac's ... then the brand can never die!
This is not death, this rebirth!
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If we keep restoring existing Pontiac's ... then the brand can never die!
This is not death, this rebirth! I agree!
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I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold 1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
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You know honestly pontiac brand has been dead for sometime now. Kill the flag ship(firebird). Then replace it with the girlie GTO personally I am glad they stopped making pontiacs... Go to any pontiac dealership a year ago you saw nothing to appeal to the muscle based crowd. If you want a grocery getter great. You want a cobalt with a V-8 buy the gto. It sucks but they lost me when the last firebird roled off the line. I wasn't happy with the chevy powerplant based firebird but at least it had some styling. Thank you pontiac for making real cars 32 years ago. 1978 was the last year for me for pontiacs. I have owned many firebird-transams from a 67 bird to the 2002 trans am I owned 5 years ago. Never bought a new pontiac only because my finances never allowed it. But the 02TA was only 2years old when I bought it. Sorry I know I am rambling... Anyways hope if they bring back pontiac they take a different approach than what led to it's downfall this time but I believe we have lost the pontiac name forever. All we have is what we as collectors perserve.
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Its getting there, Its my "New Pontiac" prototype I am calling it a Tiawaniac
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Poetry in motion ... music please
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Or a "Tiawabird". Love it! 
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 1968 400 convertible (Scarlet) 1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt) 1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration. 1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!) 1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel) 2008 Durango - DD 2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME! 2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing! 1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project 1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold) 1967 326 convertible - Sold 1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold
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You know honestly pontiac brand has been dead for sometime now. Kill the flag ship(firebird). Then replace it with the girlie GTO personally I am glad they stopped making pontiacs... Go to any pontiac dealership a year ago you saw nothing to appeal to the muscle based crowd. If you want a grocery getter great. You want a cobalt with a V-8 buy the gto. It sucks but they lost me when the last firebird roled off the line. I wasn't happy with the chevy powerplant based firebird but at least it had some styling. Thank you pontiac for making real cars 32 years ago. 1978 was the last year for me for pontiacs. I have owned many firebird-transams from a 67 bird to the 2002 trans am I owned 5 years ago. Never bought a new pontiac only because my finances never allowed it. But the 02TA was only 2years old when I bought it. Sorry I know I am rambling... Anyways hope if they bring back pontiac they take a different approach than what led to it's downfall this time but I believe we have lost the pontiac name forever. All we have is what we as collectors perserve. I think were better off anyway...the FGFs are the true birds...old classics dont need a later gen to be alive...
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Roy, you need to start a new thread on your car. I'm sure I am not the only one here that would love to see pictures of pre-restore to the point you are at right now. By the looks you are going all out to bring this bird back. WOuld love to see more pics.
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Roy, you need to start a new thread on your car. I'm sure I am not the only one here that would love to see pictures of pre-restore to the point you are at right now. By the looks you are going all out to bring this bird back. WOuld love to see more pics. Will do
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Oh Please,,,Bunch Of Pansies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...Next time You BUY CHINESSE, Go Home And Cry About You Don't Have A Job,!!!!
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You Know.... WHEN YOU SETTLE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE....... YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GOT!!!!!!!!!!
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Where Is The American Spirit???????????????????????...  Does This Icon Look Familiar?????????????????????... A$$ Hole Hoshie Motto...
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When Was The Last Time That You Employed A 14 Year Old Child To Work 14 Hours a Day For $0.60 cents an Hour,?????????,, HuH??????.. Buy More More,, If You Have any Children,, You know what I say,,, This is what is in store For Your Children With George Bush's "NEW WORLD ORDER"
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When Was The Last Time That You Employed A 14 Year Old Child To Work 14 Hours a Day For $0.60 cents an Hour,?????????,, HuH??????.. Buy More More,, If You Have any Children,, You know what I say,,, This is what is in store For Your Children With George Bush's "NEW WORLD ORDER" Question , How does Obama manage to slide out of this ??
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Man am I stupid! I had no idea they are keeping Buick! I assumed there were gone as well. Help me out here ... what the hell is there at Buick that keeps them alive?
GM is pathetic!
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Apparently, the new LaCrosse is selling very well. I wouldn't buy one, though.
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the chinese love buick over seas. buick had record sells in china. I watched a show stating if not for the chinese buying buicks theyed been gone with olds a couple years ago.
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Well here ya go,, "There's mud in my eye",, .. All the news I see is they sell to us and buy nothing.., butt,, there is defiantly a trade imbalance.. the chinese love buick over seas. buick had record sells in china. I watched a show stating if not for the chinese buying buicks theyed been gone with olds a couple years ago.
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I read somewhere that most of the high selling Buicks overseas are mainly built by Holman GM in Austrailia.
So, not sure why Pontiac was scrapped in favor of Buick here, Pontiac out sold Buick domestically.
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The chinese loves Buick....and so does Tiger...lol
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The chinese loves Buick....and so does Tiger...lol Only thing he's hit anything with while driving in quite awhile.
Wanting a Custom fit in an off the rack world. I don't have time for a job, I just need the money.
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The chinese loves Buick....and so does Tiger...lol Only thing he's hit anything with while driving in quite awhile. well, not quite , I think he hit a few "soft spots" too....lol and they werent 'hole in ones' either, more like 'hole in several '..
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I did my part to mark the day - I rolled my '67 out of the garage and hit the streets for a short drive.
2012 Mustang Boss 302 #1918, Competition Orange. FGF replacement
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We did our part too, installed an NOS vacuum gauge and replaced a clock delete plate with a working clock in the dash. Oh looks soooo much nicer!
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I wonder if Pontiac had gone to a retro look with the most recent GTO, if it would have been a different story. Can you imagine if they product something that looked like a 1969 Judge, how things might of changed. Instead they decided to save money and went with Holden and produced a Grand Am looking car.
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I wonder if Pontiac had gone to a retro look with the most recent GTO, if it would have been a different story. Can you imagine if they product something that looked like a 1969 Judge, how things might of changed. Instead they decided to save money and went with Holden and produced a Grand Am looking car. Yes it would but I think that by the time they made the GTO they were already planning the demise of the brand. Pontiac had a great V8 Grand Prix and did not adverize it. They had a high performance UTE in consideration that would have sold like mad. They could have reintroduced the Firebird on the Camaro platform and rekindled it. In the meantime they could have shifted the econo-cars and family vehicles to Chevy and concentrated on being the sport and performance brand. The problem, however, would be the enviros CAFE edicts by the government would have made Pontiac the drag on GM.
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In honor of Pontiac and all it once stood for, here is how I pay my respects to the name plate. We installed two OEM parts to the interior of our 67 LeMans. One is an NOS vacuum gauge (lower right hand corner of the pic on the console) given to me for my B-day a few weeks back and the other is an OEM clock in place of the clock delete plate that drove me nuts. I hated seeing that blank gauge pod. Rally gauges coming soon! 
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