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This is correct

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I guess anything else is wrong.
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A smaller diameter yellow spring goes inside the blue spring as well. I'm not 100% on the color but the carbs came with 2 springs.

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Gus have you seen documentation on that inner spring? I have not seen evidence of it? It is not in the service manual or the parts list. It only shows the outer spring. There is a different yellow for 2 barrel carbs.

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Originally Posted By HaroldB
Gus have you seen documentation on that inner spring? I have not seen evidence of it? It is not in the service manual or the parts list. It only shows the outer spring. There is a different yellow for 2 barrel carbs.


Not seen it in doc but seen it in many many quadrajets. What does Jim have?


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Yes I've seen a many 2 spring set up but not factory. None of the 68's documentation from any of GM vehicles I've seen has a duel spring set up.

True I feel it is safer to run two and many have been added. But the books only show one.

Here is a thread when I was questioning it. Jim replied in it. https://firstgenfirebird.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=298395

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My stock 400 has the single spring. And it is grey, not blue:
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Originally Posted By 68tpls400
My stock 400 has the single spring. And it is grey, not blue:



Take another look. You have 2 springs. It's not blue because it's corroded now.


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Another Source for the spring.

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They also have a small yellow one if you want it. - they do state - if you want more tension.
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Originally Posted By Gus68
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My stock 400 has the single spring. And it is grey, not blue:



Take another look. You have 2 springs. It's not blue because it's corroded now.


Nope. Single spring. No corrosion.


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Originally Posted By 68tpls400
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My stock 400 has the single spring. And it is grey, not blue:



Take another look. You have 2 springs. It's not blue because it's corroded now.

If you zoom in on the picture you can see the smaller spring inside of the larger spring. They occupy the same holes but there's two physical space Springs
Nope. Single spring. No corrosion.

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I only see one spring and I did zoom in.

Maybe the heat has made the paint come off over the past 47 years or someone replaced it after the first 5-10 years?

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Originally Posted By HaroldB
I only see one spring and I did zoom in.

Maybe the heat has made the paint come off over the past 47 years or someone replaced it after the first 5-10 years?

Craig says it a shadow. Could be. But I have see the pair more than just the single. Perhaps it came out years later. I recall the sm dia spring made the carb held tight so idle speed was maintained. I believe the lg dia spring was for secondary's. IMO of course

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Here is a vendor that sells the 2 spring type.

http://www.carburetion.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?Part=CUD4781
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