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#327530 08/16/20 05:21 PM
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Any estimate on the value of a 68 400 HO Ram Air 4 spd that is supposedly PHS documented?


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Have you seen the PHS documentation? '68 400 HO Ram Air??

What is the engine code?


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No I haven't seen the PHS documentation or verified the engine code. I was just trying to get an idea of what the car would be worth if what the ad says is legitimate.

Yes the ad says it is a 68 400 HO Ram Air car.

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In '68 there was the 400, 400HO, 400 RA1, and 400RA2 engines but not a 400HO RA. That's why I would want to see the PHS and engine code to see what it is.


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Originally Posted by Jimc2002
In '68 there was the 400, 400HO, 400 RA1, and 400RA2 engines but not a 400HO RA. That's why I would want to see the PHS and engine code to see what it is.

With all the incorrect parts on that car, I would question if it is even a real 400 model.


I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
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Well it says Ram Air on the air cleaner. I have a 67 Ram Air convertible. It's one of none.

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One of none!... Well that is rare!!! laugh

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Originally Posted by Bob S.
Well it says Ram Air on the air cleaner. I have a 67 Ram Air convertible. It's one of none.


I factory correct sticker!!! It's gotta be laaagit.

What's it worth? $30-$150k

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Originally Posted by Gus68
I factory correct sticker!!!

I think you need to stick to French!
laugh


I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project
1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold)
1967 326 convertible - Sold frown
1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold frown
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Originally Posted by 68tpls400
Originally Posted by Gus68
I factory correct sticker!!!

I think you need to stick to French!
laugh


My frog is much worse!

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My question was how much would the car be worth if it checked out not how to verify its authenticity but thanks for your "help".

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Since there is no such thing as an HO Ram Air as Jim pointed out then it cannot be verified and we provided sufficient “help”

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Actually apc45039, we are trying to help you.


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It's probably intended to be a 68 FB 400 HO

Here is a valuation from Haggerty:

NOTE: Prices in CND Dollars

For example: $73,600 CND = $55,650 US
Attached PDF document
1968_Pontiac_Firebird_400(1).pdf (843.87 KB, 182 downloads)

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Apc, you’ll find a lot of people don’t know what they are talking about when it comes to these cars. For instance a lot of people will tell you that it’s a ram aim car just because it has hood scoops. I suppose they will do it to up sell the car but valuation is directly related to the car’s pedigree, so to speak. Apparently the seller doesn’t know if he is trying to sell an Apple or an orange. Buyer beware.

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Originally Posted by Firebob
Apc, you’ll find a lot of people don’t know what they are talking about when it comes to these cars. For instance a lot of people will tell you that it’s a ram aim car just because it has hood scoops. I suppose they will do it to up sell the car but valuation is directly related to the car’s pedigree, so to speak. Apparently the seller doesn’t know if he is trying to sell an Apple or an orange. Buyer beware.

Well worded!


I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
1968 400 convertible (Scarlet)
1976 T/A - 455 LE (No Burt)
1976 T/A New baby, starting full restoration.
1968 350 - 4 speed 'vert - 400 clone (the Beast!)
1968 350 convertible - Wife's car now- 400 clone (Aleutian Blue) (Blue Angel)
2008 Durango - DD
2008 GXP - New one from NH is AWESOME!
2017 Durango Citadel - Modern is nice! HEMI is amazing!
1998 Silverado Z71 - Father-daughter project
1968 400 coupe - R/A clone (Blue Pearl) (sold)
1967 326 convertible - Sold frown
1980 T/A SE Bandit - Sold frown
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Originally Posted by apc45039
My question was how much would the car be worth if it checked out not how to verify its authenticity but thanks for your "help".


So, a Warren County boy? There will be enough locals in the Cinncinati area who can help with identification as well as an opinion on value by looking at the vehicle in person. At this board, given the ad has identified it as something that was never produced at a GM factory, we cannot do so. Heck, is Paul Freese still in business in Batesville? He's more of a GTO guy, but he'll have an opinion.


1968 400 Coupe, verdoro green, black vinyl top, auto
1969 GTO Judge coupe, Carousel Red, manual
1971 Trans Am, cameo white, auto
1970 Buick Skylark Custom Convertible 350-4(driver), Fire Red, white top, auto
1972 Buick GS Stage 1, Royal Blue, black vinyl top, auto
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Here are correct engine codes for 1968 Firebird with 400 engine:

WZ- 400 MT
YT- 400AT
WQ- 400HO MT
YW- 400HO AT
WI- RA I MT (D port head)
XN- RA i AT (D port head)
WU- RA II MT (Round port head)
XT- RA II AT (Round port head)

Engine codes are stamped on passenger side of block around timing cover. Block casting # is on back side of block passenger side along transmission, hope this helps.

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It could have been modified and enhanced to the point where it does indeed qualify as a RAM-AIR, but certainly not an original build from the factory. Go check it out!


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