What I started the thread to show was what I've heard, over the years, about the ram air three cars, has a little 'back up' on paper. Before I came to this board, before there was a board, before anyone used an internet, we talked about these cars at GM. Most of the guys are dead and gone now. I'm talking about the war vets that came back and bought new Firebirds. They knew the cars from the consumer end of things. They spoke of the ram air III cars they owned. Some with functional hoods, some without. Now I have found paperwork(original invoices) with ram air right on them. And, low and behold, they do not have the functional hood! Many of the corporate 'big wigs' just see things from the corporate point of view. I look at it from the consumer point of view too. Many of the real consumers and the old collectors fondly called all the 348 cars in 69 ram air III. So you have real people with real public information AND original invoices that back them up.